Saga - The Beginner's Guide to Throwing Shapes (1989)
Saga - The Beginner's Guide to Throwing Shapes (1989)
XLD | Flac(Image) + Cue + Log & MP3 CBR 320Kbps
BMG/Bonaire, 260 367 | ~ 298 or 106 Mb | Scans(png, 600dpi) -> 118 Mb
Progressive Rock / Pop Rock
XLD | Flac(Image) + Cue + Log & MP3 CBR 320Kbps
BMG/Bonaire, 260 367 | ~ 298 or 106 Mb | Scans(png, 600dpi) -> 118 Mb
Progressive Rock / Pop Rock
The last great album with that Saga sound(and 1993's _Security Of Illusion_). Considering this followed the stinker _Wildest Dreams_, this album is a return to form and stands alongside other Saga greats like Heads Or Tales, Behaviour and Worlds Apart. What's most impressive on this is an aggressive Ian Crichton guitar sound. He does his usual arpeggio runs on the frets, but delivers a crunchier sound here…almost like an excited Steve Morse(Dixie Dregs). Production is really crisp comparable to the album Heads Or Tales. Highlights are Shape(excellent vocals), Waiting In The Wings(best Crichton guitar track in Saga history as far as I'm concerned)…and Giant - which is instrumentally similar to Power & The Glory-era Gentle Giant. The only throwaway track here is Nineties…but it's still not that bad a track. I've heard worse. I'd give this album a 3.5…but it gets a 4 on progarchives to up the rating. :-)
If you like the early Saga sound, do not overlook this album. It's worthy of any neo-proggers collection. Worthy of note - recommended to guitar players. Ian Crichton really shines here. If I could compare A Beginner's Guide To Throwing Shapes to another band's album known to other prog.rockers, let's just say this is Saga's Stationary Traveller(as per CAMEL).by Gooner, progarchives
Saga - The Beginner's Guide to Throwing Shapes (1989):
Saga - The Beginner's Guide to Throwing Shapes (1989)
Tracklist:
1. How Do I Look 4:36
2. Starting All Over 4:02
3. Shape 5:10
4. Odd Man Out 4:51
5. The Nineties 4:17
6. Scarecrow 4:19
7. As I Am 5:17
8. Waiting In The Wings 4:58
9. Giant 7:17
Musicians:
Michael Sadler: Vocals & Keyboards
Jim Crichton: Bass, Keyboards and Synthaxe
Ian Crichton: Guitars, Synthaxe & Banjo
Curt Cress: Drums & Percussion
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Saga / The Beginner's Guide to Throwing Shapes (260 367)
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XLD extraction logfile from 2013-08-31 21:18:59 +0400
Saga / The Beginner's Guide to Throwing Shapes (260 367)
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Saga - The Beginner's Guide to Throwing Shapes (1989)
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