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    Nucleus - Elastic Rock (1970) & We'll Talk About It Later (1971) [Reissue 1994]

    Posted By: gribovar
    Nucleus - Elastic Rock (1970) & We'll Talk About It Later (1971) [Reissue 1994]

    Nucleus - Elastic Rock (1970) & We'll Talk About It Later (1971) [Reissue 1994]
    EAC Rip | WavPack (image+.cue+log) - 533 MB | MP3 CBR 320 kbps (LAME 3.93) - 205 MB | Covers - 97 MB
    Genre: Progressive/Jazz Rock, Fusion | RAR 3% Rec. | Label: BGO Records (BGOCD47)

    If Soft Machine was a rock group that veered towards jazz rock, Nucleus can be seen as a jazz group that veered towards jazz rock, as most musicians were clearly jazz musicians with the notable exception of Chris Spedding (yes, Mr. motocycle-punk/Chameleon-man of rock). If a comparison of those two groups can be made, it is also obvious that Nucleus became a nursing ground for those musicians before joining Soft Machine (around ten musicians did the transfer). They were signed on the famous progressive Vertigo label and the first two superb artwork album sleeves were designed by Roger Dean.
    Nucleus was trumpet player (and confirmed jazzmen and biographist) Ian Carr's project and the its discography is rather confusing with the different designations as some were called "Ian Carr's Nucleus", "Nucleus With Ian Carr" or simply "Ian Carr" (but with all Nucleus members playing). This is hardly meaning that he was the main writer, main influence or main soloist. Many outstanding musicians contributed loads of material among which Karl Jenkins, Jeff Clyne, Chris Spedding, Alan Holdsworth, Brian Smith & Dave MacRae. Their music was of a frantic instrumental jazz-rock much alike some Miles Davis jazz-rock of the same era. Loads of wind instruments, but KB and a wide place for the guitarist (Spedding's guitar is superb and grandiose while self-restrained). Clearly the groundbreaking essence of Nucleus is best heard on the early albums as the later albums only managed to repeat the formula but not evolving much. Nucleus lasted as a touring unit until the early 80's and then reformed on the odd occasion since. Alas, early 2009, Ian Carr left us for proggier pastures, leaving behind an important aural and written oeuvre.
    In 1994, BGO released Elastic Rock/We'll Talk About It Later, which contained two albums - Elastic Rock (1970, originally released on Vertigo) and We'll Talk About It Later (1970, also originally on Vertigo) on one compact disc.

    CD 1 Tracklist (Elastic Rock, 1970):
    01. 1916
    02. Elastic Rock
    03. Striation
    04. Taranaki
    05. Twisted Track
    06. Crude Blues Part One
    07. Crude Blues Part Two
    08. 1916 (Battle Of Boogaloo)
    09. Torrid Zone
    10. Stonescape
    11. Earth Mother
    12. Speaking For Myself, Personally, In My Own Opinion, I Think…
    13. Persephones Jive

    Total time: 41:25

    CD 2 Tracklist (We'll Talk About It Later, 1971):
    01. Song For The Bearded Lady
    02. Sun Child
    03. Lullaby For A Lonely Child
    04. We'll Talk About It Later
    05. Oasis
    06. Ballad Of Joe Pimp
    07. Easter 1916

    Total time: 45:40

    Exact Audio Copy V1.0 beta 3 from 29. August 2011

    EAC extraction logfile from 13. October 2013, 10:22

    Nucleus / Elastic Rock

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    10 | 29:46.33 | 2:39.15 | 133983 | 145922
    11 | 32:25.48 | 5:16.32 | 145923 | 169654
    12 | 37:42.05 | 1:29.65 | 169655 | 176394
    13 | 39:11.70 | 2:13.38 | 176395 | 186407


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    Exact Audio Copy V1.0 beta 3 from 29. August 2011

    EAC extraction logfile from 13. October 2013, 10:41

    Nucleus / We'll Talk About It Later

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    Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000

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    4 | 16:59.63 | 6:16.37 | 76488 | 104724
    5 | 23:16.25 | 9:48.08 | 104725 | 148832
    6 | 33:04.33 | 3:46.35 | 148833 | 165817
    7 | 36:50.68 | 8:49.40 | 165818 | 205532


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    Peak level 100.0 %
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